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Since Gov GoodHair announced his Presidential run today..lets check out how TX is doing under his ten year reign. Not withstanding the grade he received in economics..a D, Perry has little to be proud of when it comes to how Texans actually live and prosper. From USAToday:

Texas ranks 44th in the USA in per-student expenditures and 43rd in high school graduation rates, McCown says. Seventeen percent of Texans lived below the poverty level in 2009, compared with 14% for the nation. The state leads in the percentage of the population with no health insurance and was ninth in income inequality in the mid-2000s, the latest data available, according to McCown and the Economic Policy Institute.

Somehow, this doesn’t sit with me as things to be proud of. Scott McCown, head of Texas’ Center for Public Policy Priorities, has the money quote in the USAToday writeup:

“If you’re saying you want to look like Texas, you’re saying you want to be poor and have less health care,” he says

We don’t need more uneducated folks in our nation. We have plenty of those to go around. Healthcare is a basic need, and should be a basic right. If people are not able to avail themselves of basic healthcare, you will find them on disability faster than Rick Perry can pray for rain.

Another nasty statistic that should haunt Perry during his run for the Oval office is the wages that Texans make, on average. From a San Antonio newspaper:

Texas tied with Mississippi for states having the highest percentage of hourly paid workers earning the minimum wage or less in 2010.

Some 550,000 Texans, or 9.5 percent of hourly paid workers, made the federal minimum wage of $7.25 an hour or less last year. That’s up 76,000 workers, or 16 percent, from 2009, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported Monday.

Leslie Helmcamp, a policy analyst with the Austin-based Center for Public Policy Priorities, which focuses on low- and moderate-income Texans, called the numbers “alarming.”

“The higher proportion of hourly paid workers who are earning at or below the minimum wage is reflective of our low high school and college completion rates,” Helmcamp said. “We can only attract higher-paying jobs if we are able to move more Texans into higher education and ultimately complete a college degree.”

Yes, we really need to lower the wages Americans make. That way they can’t buy houses or new cars in most major cities outside of TX, much less increase our GDP which is primarily based on domestic spending. TX has no state income tax and their housing prices are much lower than the national average, not to mention land is incredibly cheaper there than the majority of states. So, when you try to apply TX’s numbers to the rest of the United States..it ain’t gonna fly.

In Perry’s speech today, he announced that America needs to get back to work. Well, no shit Sherlock. But if by work, you mean low-wage jobs that don’t provide a way out of poverty, much less a path to the middle class..I call bullshit on his methodology.

Perry claims to have a business-friendly environment in TX. According to TNR, its not all that. When you add to that the huge budget problems they are currently tackling in TX, Perry doesn’t look like the best guy for the job either:

…But while Texas remains “open for business”—the slogan of his successful re-election campaign in 2010—the state’s Legislature is in the process of a going-out-of-business sale. The Texas budget for the next two years is a mess of accounting tricks and gutted programs, thanks to an unprecedented budget shortfall. The state’s business tax has not only been unpopular, it also doesn’t generate nearly enough revenue. Operating at a structural deficit, the state has even begun to attack funding in the once-hallowed ground of education. And while Perry has spent a good bit of June on his non-campaign-campaign, state lawmakers from both parties are fighting tooth-and-nail to legislate around his dictums.

Although he campaigned in 2010 on the premise that, as he told the Associated Press, “Texas is better off than practically any state in the country,” Perry, along with the rest of the state, soon discovered that Texas’s budget gap—$27 billion short of what it would need to maintain its already lean services in the next biennium—was among the worst in the nation. Luckily, Texas did have a rainy day fund—over $9 billion saved up for “economic stabilization.” Some lawmakers, including many Republicans in the state Senate, advocated using the fund to prevent or at least soften cuts to education and health care. But Perry, who had turned “preserving the rainy day fund” into an applause line, stood firm in refusing to use it to plug holes in the budget for 2012-13. As a result, the budget cuts were draconian—initial proposals cut almost 20 percent from public schools and proposed 30 percent cuts to Medicaid providers. According to estimates from the nonpartisan state Legislative Budget Board, the initial proposal would have cost the state over 300,000 future jobs.

In the face of Perry’s promise to veto any use of the rainy day fund, lawmakers turned to accounting tricks like deferred payments to soften the blows to state programs. Fees, too, on everything from getting help collecting child support to registering as a lobbyist, are going up all over the state, and almost nowhere does the budget account for normal growth in social services enrollment. The final budget short-funds Medicaid by almost $5 billion. Legislators had to return for a special session to hammer out the cuts to education, which will likely end up around $4 billion. It will mark the first time Texas has cut funding for public schools since 1949, when the state first took a prominent role in financing them. Even the Texas Association of Business, a conservative, pro-business coalition if ever there was one, has expressed concerns over some of the cuts to schools and early childhood education. “Our state runs the risk of falling short on our commitment to Texas school children and businesses that rely on a well-educated workforce,” the group proclaimed in one March press release.

Fees are another word for taxes. Ask anyone that lives or lived in CA under Ahnold. Gutting the educational system doesn’t help anyone or any state. Since TX already ranks 43rd in graduation rates, how will a Perry Administration help the entire nation raise the standards of education that are currently horrendous on a global scale?

It wouldn’t.

His flagrant religious leanings won’t endear him to much of the voting population either, as this article in a Catholic news journal,about his PrayerFest in TX, doesn’t give him a flattering review:

The people who gathered at Reliant Stadium are not just Rick Perry’s spiritual army, raised up, as Perry and others imagine it, in the spirit of Joel 2 to sound an alarm and prepare the people for Judgment Day. They are the ground troops the religious right set out four decades ago to create, and duplicate over generations, for the ongoing culture wars. One part of that army is people like Perry himself, supported by religious right political elites who aimed to cultivate candidates, advocates, and political strategists committed to putting God before government.

That a sitting governor would laugh off charges that his “instigation” of an exclusively Christian (and, more specifically, a certain kind of Christian) event is proof of the success of the cultural and spiritual warriors, who believe they are commanded to “take dominion” over government and other spheres of influence. Perry is their man in a high place, in this case an especially courageous one, willing to rebuff charges from the “radical secularists” that he’s crossed the line between church and state. That makes him something much more than just a political or spiritual hero; he is an exemplar.

I am not knocking people who believe in a higher being..but the fact that a Catholic writeup does, says mountains about how this man will alienate the masses of religious people who aren’t part of the extreme religious right.Most folks don’t want religion, and a specific type of religion to boot, in their government, I don’t give a shit what Perry and his rightwing nutter friends say.

So let’s see how this all plays out..now that Gov Goodhair has come out of the closet..Oh wait..he hasn’t done that yet. ;)

Dusty

I am a..brown Cali bitch that is quite the opinionated,political, pain-in-the-ass, in your face kinda girl that also loves baseball and music to a fault. Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.--Albert Einstein-*

  90 Responses to “Why Rick Perry will suck as a President.”

  1. Perry would be a disaster. If he gets nominated, Democrats need to make sure every TV station is saturated with ads reminding voters of Perry’s dismal record as governor, his threats to secede and the collection of Bible-humping crazies who support him.

    • Perry has his henchman already on the ground, trying to spin ‘his record’. When you look below the surface, TX is a very poor state that doesn’t take care of it’s residents and doesn’t mind that so many of them live in poverty or do not have health insurance.

  2. Another Republican whack job, throwing his hat into the big circus tent.

    We already 8 years of a fuck up from TX, so we surely don’t need another one.

    • Another Republican whack job, throwing his hat into the big circus tent. Which is why I hunt high and low for clown pics of these jerkwads Don! :lol:

  3. Excellent summary. I live in Dallas and you told me some things I didn’t know. I know of the secede political statements, and the God on the shoulder, and the consideration that minimum wage s plenty good enough for anyone who knows how to manage money.

    I didn’t realize we were so illiterate here, but I am certainly not surprised. I moved here a nearly a decade ago, and have become increasingly stupid every year, no offense to Texas.

    • I tried to stay away from the well-known facts about Gov Goodhair..why beat a dead horse? But when a friend sent me the Catholic journal review of his PrayerFest, I really had to include that at the end…as it shows normal folks that believe in a higher being won’t like this fuck one iota John.

      Thank you for the compliment! I really feel good getting that from you. ;)

      • Dusty, you sure hit the nail right on the head. I LOVE hearing all of your comments. I just wonder who will get the Republication nomination. I sure hope it isn’t Perry. We don’t need another religious crazie like the last one from Texas.

        • Well, Rick the Prick doesn’t have Rover’s blessings this time around, so that should help keep him from the nomination. Personally, I dont think hes serious at all..another Palin, aka Publicity-whore type wingnut. :lol:

          Thank you Linda fer stopping by! I appreciate your patronage dear woman!

  4. Neat situation we have here, there is a very strong possibility Perry could unite the religious right wackos with the sleazy and greedy business-and-profit-first types and win the republican nomination. Now add the screwed up economy with millions of people desperate for a job and you have the recipe for a landslide that could sweep Obama into the unemployment line himself in 2013.

    The sixty-four thousand dollar question is whether the progressive faction that is dissatisfied with Obama’s more than apparent lackluster to spineless performance as POTUS will rally and help get him re-elected.

    Obama’s flaws are real and extremely frustrating but a primary opponent for him would be next to suicide for the democrats so its the question of who do they hate worse.

    • Perry will unite the ‘baggers and the corporate whores, no doubt about it.

      I, for one, am not willing to compromise my beliefs to put that Republican in D clothing back in office. I don;t know what I will do yet. But I won’t ‘get out the vote’ for him like I did last time..manning the phones and walking neighborhoods.

      I am tired of voting for the ‘lessar of two evils’ BB..I really am.

      • I’m not planning on doing GOTV for Obama next year, either, although I will hold my nose and vote for him. Instead, I plan on helping Debbie Stabenow keep her U.S. Senate seat. Obama’s only as good as the Congress he has, and right now, the one he has stinks.

  5. I just did a short post today about this charlatan, using a photo I found of him. I think it says all that needs to be said about him.

    What truly concerns me is, I clearly recall before the 2000 election, many on the left predicting that dumb nuts Georgie had no chance of being elected, because he was a) a failure b) a drunk c) stupid. The same cretins that put him in office are still out there, folks. And they will vote for whomever they feel is just like them. And that is what he is spinning.

    • That’s why the idiots need to be educated. If they want more of the same, there is little we can do about it. Breaks your heart don’t it?

      • First, thanx for the visit to and subscribing to Info Ink…let me know if you would like to exchange links…

        Well said and I agree….that is one of the reasons for Info Ink…I try to show people that all the concepts are not as deep as they think and I try to point out all the lies that are being told….by both sides….

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  6. didn’t you hear? Michele Bachmann is going to win. Iowa Crazy People said so!

  7. Why in the hell would I want a minimum wage job to wake up to and give me purpose? I make more on unemployment, welfare, disability, and food stamps. The only job I have is to keep my bong full of “medicinal” marijuana… Thanks Obama!

    PS: When does the rioting and looting start? I need a new flatscreen.

    • You know what Mary? You are so full of shit I bet your eyes are brown. There is no way to make more money on unemployment than working. When was the last time your stupid ass was on unemployment for any length of time? Because if you made min wage prior to being unemployed..you would get less than you would of working that min wage job. Do the math you stupid cunt.

      Plus, showing your ignorance again..you can’t get disability AND welfare AND unemployment at the same time…unless you are BELOW the poverty level after all those are taken into consideration.

      Food stamps is to feed your kids. You can’t buy a car or your cherished flat screen with food stamps.
      Are you really that fucking stupid or just act like it? Seriously bitch..which is it?

      • You’re correct. I’m disabled, and only make less that $1300 in disability. Over half of that goes to housing.

        And the Food stamp folks tell me I make too much to qualify for food stamps.

        • Well guess what Mary, I am disabled and make less than 1100 a month. But I don’t blame the current administration for my lot in life.

          And if what you say is true in your second comment..which line am I supposed to believe now bitch? Your first comment or your second?

    • Mary,
      You are mean spirited, un informed and just plain nasty.
      Please crawl back into your R cave. Or not and stay in the real world and educate yourself.
      You obviously do not know anybody looking for a job or on disability.

  8. Hey, Perry for President? Why not. Let’s take this country down in flames. Elect Perry, fill congress with tea partiers, pack the benches, subvert the bureaucracies. This is one frog that’s tired of the slow boil, perhaps it’d be better we turned up the flame and went out in blaze of glory.

    Or maybe we’d just jump out of the fucking pot.

    • ahhh, that feels better.

      Perry’s a joke, a man who many cant even believe is still governor. Not enough, sadly, but many. If elected he’ll make the nation a bigger joke than it already is.

    • Hey, Perry for President? Why not. Let’s take this country down in flames. That, m’dear dave is called ‘Political Nihilism”..a belief of which I subscribe to. :lol:

    • Agreed. if we’re going to burn, lets get it on. Enough of these half assed attempts. Sooner we do, the sooner we can rebuild it to resemble a real democracy.

  9. I’ve taken it upon myself to expose the Mary’s of the world that troll the comment sections of my financial blogs for the lying right wing sheep they are. These ignorant dupes actually think they’re doing good and Rush Limbaugh will give them a pat on the head for their dupery.

    Rick Perry’s pandering to religious dupes is just good republican strategy. And obedience is a tenet of republicanism.

    • Hey sweetie! Smooches to you! Love this: Rick Perry’s pandering to religious dupes is just good republican strategy. And obedience is a tenet of republicanism. Krazy Karl Rove admitted that shit in his book I believe, so it must be true right?

      The nutters that come here w/only debasing rhetoric show their lack of intelligence and it warms the cockles of my lil black heart. They bring nothing but talking points..far be it for them to use facts to support their inane positions.

  10. I think Perry ROCKS! I mean he gets that little twinkle in his eye and shoots you that big ol smile and by God, you just gotta want to have another Texan for President! I just want to say, “oh yeah, beat me harder, yeah, harder….”

    This country is so into S&M!

    Those Texan’s may be dumb but they can play some football now can’t they?! :)

    I watched the debates in Iowa and watched Perry throw his hat into the ring and I couldn’t help but keep thinking, “…why are all these freaks of nature republicans?”

    • I just wish the Darwin award could be won by all of them TAO. They surely deserve it..hands down. :lol: Come to think of it..so does anyone that votes for them.

  11. Dusty ,

    Boy you sure are a vicious piece of work . Is this how you treat everyone who dares run against Obama the Not very Great. All poor Gov. Perry did was announce he will try to take your hero’s job and you launch this horrendous smear .

    Didn’t your hero try to bury the hatchet after the Arizona shootings ? Didn’t your side say we have to tone down the hatred ? Wait, wait, you guys meant my side should unilaterally disarm. I guess Obama meant he would bury the hatchet in our back .

    Now as far as dueling academics, I would put up Perry’s economic record as a Governor against Barak’s record as a President .

    That makes a D student smarter than a Harvard Phi beta idiot graduate . That must be what they call grade inflation .

    • To address the only half-way intelligent thing you said in your comment: Now as far as dueling academics, I would put up Perry’s economic record as a Governor against Barak’s record as a President . Perry’s economic record is in the shitter, can you read? He has one of the largest deficit’s of any state in the nation, even the R’s in his state are trying to get around him. I put all that in the post yet you somehow failed to comprehend it.

      Why am I not surprised?

      If you continue to use the ignorant phrase “your hero” you can take a hike and troll someone else’s blog asshole as I told you already I am not a supporter of Obama’s policies. You can remember as far back as Don’s blog right? Where I told you that and you put up a response to it?

      Comparing Obama’s administration to Perry’s is apples and oranges you pathetic excuse for a human. One has been in office for less than three years, the other for 10 years.

  12. Dusty ,

    ” as I told you already I am not a supporter of Obama’s policies. ”

    Then what exactly are you for ? Why are attacking Governor Perry if it is not to defend President Obama ? Did you suddenly have a come to Satan moment and discover that Texas has a Governor that you hate ????

    I think you are like a lot of Progressive-Liberals. You are so twisted by your hatred , you even lie to yourself .

    I bet Governor Perry’s deficit ain’t nothin compared to President Obama’s. I bet Rick Perry has a better unemployment rate than President Obama has .

    Gee since President Obama has less than 3 years in office, I suppose we cannot compare him to anybody, can we ? 3 years is enough time to rate him against others. After 3 years you can’t just keep blaming President Bush. Especially when for 2 of those years your worthless hero had bigger ginormous majorities in both Houses of Congress. Bush, Clinton, Bush, and Reagan never had those and had better records by this time in their terms .

    But please just keep spewing out your venom . Your hero is so Jimmy Carter . If Rick Perry falters in the Primaries and my Republicans nominate someone else, then your hatred will shift to them . Admit it . You really hate Perry because he is a threat, no other reason .

    • Once again you continue to go off-topic. Defend the facts I put up about Perry’s governorship of ten years..come on..I will be waiting, as facts can not be misinterpreted.

  13. Dusty ,

    Okay, your blog, we will play in your ballpark.

    ” ninth in income inequality in the mid-2000s, ”

    Who cares ? Every time you Marxists try to redistribute the wealth, you destroy the wealth . Last I saw Texas had an unemployment rate of 8.2%. Better than Progressive states like Caleefornia . Texas does not try to destroy business like you believe it should .

    ” The state leads in the percentage of the population with no health insurance ”

    Another argument for Obamney-Care . The States are already going bankrupt because of Medicade .

    • Who cares about income inequality? You should. Over 70% of our GDP is based on consumer spending. If the masses continue to see their income shrink they can not spend. It’s not rocket science. Texas tied with Mississippi for states having the highest percentage of hourly paid workers earning the minimum wage or less in 2010.

      All unemployment rates are fuzzy math. They don’t include the under-employed or those who have been out of work for an extended length of time. TX has more unskilled labor than anywhere else..is that a fact they should be proud of?

      No health insurance means no health insurance. It does not boil down to Medicaid alone. As I said, if you have a large percentage of your workforce uninsured, you will have a large section that eventually becomes disabled because they are unable to take care of medical problems that would be addressed if they had access to affordable health insurance. I guess you would rather have them on disability than have them pay for health insurance that is affordable. Not once did I say anything about giving everyone free health insurance.

  14. Ain’t mea culpa: although I live in Texas I do not vote for him and, in fact, despise the man. His religion is the single most objectionable thing about him. Why? Because it colors everything the shithead does. He can rely on dogma such as the so-called Prosperity Gospel to justify the increasing disparity between the very wealthy and the poor and middle classes, as if Jesus Christ were really Gordon Gekko. And the people he hangs with, e.g. the American Family Association, Donald Wilmon’s hate group, symbolize everything that is wrong with right wingnut religious bigots getting involved in politics. They are hoping Perry is the usher for Jesus’ Dominion, at which time the world will blow up (Mideastern nuclear war) and God will bring about the Rapture, all of us dying, some to go to pie in the sky, some to eternal damnation next door to Voltaire, Berlioz, Darwin, and Einstein. With Perry in the White House, a lot of us will be quoting Woody Allen in a slightly different context and wording: We don’t mind having the Rapture. We just don’t want to be there when it happens.

    • He can rely on dogma such as the so-called Prosperity Gospel to justify the increasing disparity between the very wealthy and the poor and middle classes, as if Jesus Christ were really Gordon Gekko. Best observation of his religious beliefs I have read yet! Thank You James. ;)

  15. Dusty ,

    ” I am not a Marxist I am a Socialist. Big difference. ”

    Explain the difference between you and a Marxist , please . I have a hard time telling you guys apart . Y’all look a like .

    ” All unemployment rates are fuzzy math. ”

    So the President’s numbers are probably worse than 9.2% ?

    ” TX has more unskilled labor than anywhere else..is that a fact they should be proud of? ”

    Good point,,,, but I am guessing that Texas being a border state has a little to do with it . Especially because some freakin clown in the White House refuses to enforce border law and that same freakin clown attacks any state that tries to enforce the law on it’s own !

    ” I guess you would rather have them on disability than have them pay for health insurance that is affordable. Not once did I say anything about giving everyone free health insurance. ”

    You and I are not going to solve the health care crisis on your board right now . Neither will Government, state or Federal . A lot of the rising costs are driven by government entitlements . If you pay more of your own costs you care a lot more about waste . Killing the economy like Obama has done, bringing the rich down to the level of the poor, it don’t help the poor . Ask the peasants in Cuba and N. Korea . But they sure got equality, don’t they ?

    You are advocating having other people pay for some people’s health care .

    James Martin ,

    Just what is your problem ? You list a lot of religious crap that Governor Perry is involved in, that you object to . Why not list the policies he has pursued as Governor that you do not like ? That is more relevant .

    • Cuba has socialized medicine, tuition free universities. Why is health care costs so high in this country? Start with the insurance companies, who have been gouging the consumers for years, with high deductibles, ready made excuses why a person is not covered, yet pay sky high premiums for what, to make the share holders happy. Do your homework Alan, and stop bashing everyone, isn’t a so-called Republican, who are only for the rich and the mega corporations, not for the middle class, the needy the poor, the homeless.

    • Yes, the Presidents numbers are worse than reported.So are the numbers for every other state in the union. That doesn’t help your argument one iota.

      TX being a border state has nothing to do w/it as there are other border states who’s numbers of unskilled labor aren’t near as shitty as TX’s. Try again. Mississippi and TX both have worse numbers than AZ and CA, both border states..especially AZ when it comes to miles of border.

      Bush43 wanted a kinder gentler immigration law and his own party tossed it’s collective cookies over that..yet you choose to blame Obama..nice try. Obama has arrested and sent back over the border more illegal immigrants than Bush: The Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency expects to deport about 400,000 people this fiscal year, nearly 10 percent above the Bush administration’s 2008 total and 25 percent more than were deported in 2007. The pace of company audits has roughly quadrupled since President George W. Bush’s final year in office. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/25/AR2010072501790.html So you are full of shit on that one as well.

      You have nothing on the health insurance front, so you give up..yet as per the rights usual talking points STILL try to say that I SAID other people should pay for everyone’s health care..nope, didn’t say that..Chalk one up for me as you revert to the usual rightwing nutter talking points: A lot of the rising costs are driven by government entitlements and blaming Obama for a problem that has existed for decades: spiraling healthcare costs.

      Perry alienates normal Christian folk with his brand of wingnut religion. I quoted you a catholic review of his PrayerFest..did you not read my article, or are you just spewing bullshit rightwing talking points again? I vote for the latter.

      Obama didn’t kill the economy or jack up the deficit like Bush43 did with his tax cuts and fiscal irresponsibility with not putting two forever wars “on the books”. Obama inherited it. Another fact.

      Most economists agree the stimulus was too small..even rightwing economists agree on that now in retrospect. Perry used stimulus money to attempt to fix his budget shortfall as a matter of fact. Rightwing economists also agree that unless there are revenue increases, gutting programs alone will not fix the economy or bring down the deficit: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/13/business/economy/voices-faulting-gop-economic-policies-growing-louder.html?_r=1

    • The economy has improved under Obama although not as fast as people would like, but it was crashing with something like 700,000 newly unemployed each month when he took over. To say “Killing the economy like Obama has done” and “bringing the rich down to the level of the poor” are flat out lies and totally ignores the facts.

      • What killed the economy was Wall St turning into Gambler’s Row, thanks to the killing of Glass-Steagall and all the anti-regulatory crap that came after that. Also Moody’s, S&P and their ilk rating the mortgage products as tripleA products when they were really junk bonds.

        Obama has done what he could..according to him. I still say he is a lousy negotiator or an R in D clothing as many economists said his stimulus was too small from the start. Add to that the Party of NO refused to co-operate on bringing the economy back by giving Obama a larger stimulus package in the hopes that they could guarantee he would be a one term president when the Stim failed..which as you point out Jerry..it DID NOT fail.

    • wait, I thought we were a secular nation? Seems to me that Perry’s Christianist/ Dominionist pandering is perfectly relevant to criticize him.

      Since when is Christianity so fragile that it can’t take a little criticism in the public sphere?

      • Since when is Christianity so fragile that it can’t take a little criticism in the public sphere? Perfecto Zombie! I hear crickets as a response! :lol:

  16. Alan,

    Explain the difference between you [a socialist] and a Marxist , please . I have a hard time telling you guys apart . Y’all look a like .

    If you don’t understand your terms, shouldn’t you be researching and learning rather than spouting off opinions about things you don’t understand?

    So the President’s numbers are probably worse than 9.2% ? You mean the Republican House who was to fly in and save the day, do you not? Yes, unemployment is bad.

    Good point,,,, but I am guessing that Texas being a border state has a little to do with it . Especially because some freakin clown in the White House refuses to enforce border law and that same freakin clown attacks any state that tries to enforce the law on it’s own ! Now, now, you know that “unskilled” labor in not on the books or in the status. Stop making things up.

    Not once did I [Dusty] say anything about giving everyone free health insurance. I will say it. We should have universal healthcare. Medicare, Welfare to feed children who not otherwise eat, disability are all socialist programs I endorse.

    A lot of the rising costs are driven by government entitlements. The government has had entitlements for 80 years. We used to couple it with taxation. The economy was better back then.

    Killing the economy like Obama has done, bringing the rich down to the level of the poor, it don’t help the poor .

    You mean it doesn’t help the poor.

    Obama inherited a dead economy. You cannot kill a corpse.

    You are advocating having other people pay for some people’s health care . I don’t think Dusty is advocating this, but I do support universal healthcare. Those who became rich living in America should support the government that hosts their wealth. I am in favor a minimum set of rights a government should provide in support of its people. I don’t care if you consider this Marxism, Socialism or even Murder or Sky-diving. I am not going to decide policy based on the label you affix to it. To do so would be fallacious thinking.

    I consider Rick Perry’s politics to be atrocious. I do not fault him for being academically stupid. I do not fault him for praying to God for guidance or holding revivals where he can learn his destiny. I do fault him for thinking God has republican values and trying to lead using them.

    He is against abortion explicitly because his narrow-minded deity has asked him to be.

    He wants a constitutional Amendment to oppress of the rights of homosexuals.

    He wants to dismantle the federal government. He does not believe in government agencies and he was serious when he says he thinks secession should be on the table. He is cut from the same nutty cloth as the Tea Party.

    He supports execution in Texas of the mentally challenged, you know, the retarded people?

    He believes in a regressive tax policy, meaning the less you make, the higher your overall tax rate. This is sick.

    I wish I had more time. I am multi-tasking and I have a lawn in need of attention. I think the government should handle this for me, but I guess they don’t have a lawn mower, so I have to do it.

    • I do want universal healthcare, but my original post was on Perry and why he sucks..so I refused to be drawn into that argument John. The right always gets off-topic and I am so tired of that, as it shows they can not support their own positions..they merely tear down other’s.

      • Talking and dealing with the right, is like trying to talk to a chipmunk during a hurricane. I agree with you Dusty, they come on here, and right away they twist things around, and make asinine comments. That’s what happens when they rely on Fox News and Limbaugh for their (mis)information.

        • Dusty,

          I completely understand this. I was throwing it in the mix because I am a socialist by many definitions and I wanted to state an example of some. I am fine with that. I refuse to have my position on a topic be validated on someone else’s position on the same topic.

          One of Hitler’s major concerns during WWII was that his dog would be harmed. He tried to take care of his dog.

          I don’t care if someone accuses me of being like Hitler and compares me to a Nazi. I will still provide for my dog.

          I also don’t care if Hitler helped his aging grandmother cross a busy street. I will still help my grandmother.

          I don’t care what Karl Marx thought of universal healthcare. I am in favor of it. The fact that you think Karl Marx was in favor of universal healthcare does nothing to prove your case that America should not have it. You have to come up with an argument other than someone you don’t like did the same thing, and since that person did other things you don’t like also, this thing must be wrong.

          That kind of thinking is completely fallacious. It is a named fallacy, but the name escapes me at the moment.

          By the way, S. W. Anderson as chastised me for getting off topic more than once. I think he may have used the term “nut” or “crazy” in some cases. It was something like that, but I digress.

  17. If you let Texas secede, then it becomes another country. Perry and the other loons from there won’t be eligible to be President.

  18. hey, just stopping in to pole the wingnuts by reminding that the only way Perry even managed to balance the TX budget is by using stimulus money.

    you know, even with the drastic cuts to education and the wild expansion to “user fees” and taxes by any other name.

  19. I just love these conservatives who complain that socialism doesnt work (all based on their interpretation of the Soviet Union), as if somehow the entirety of Europe either doesnt exist, or is one step from utter collapse.

    Anyway, Rick Perry. Yeah…

    If he actually gets elected president, I think it’ll be pretty clear that the fix is in. This is starting to remind me of Kerry’s nomination back in ’04. Lots of hype, lots of press, and suddenly there’s this nominee that no one really wants, yet somehow he’s up for the highest seat in the land (other than, you know, bank CEO or something with real power).

  20. Wow, you manage to get the trolls crawling out from under the bridge with this post. Good work!

    I have another source of news about Perry for you, Juanita Jean’s The world’s most dangerous beauty salon.

    http://www.juanitajean.com/

    More dirt on Rick Perry that you could ever clean with a Shop Vac!

  21. Ah, but Texas does lead the nation in one field.

  22. Run Rick, run. All the dems will need to do is post photo’s Perrry and the Shrub together and say, “Please, Texas, not again”.

  23. Don ,

    I was going to say that I don’t believe you would cite that economic powerhouse Cuba to make a point about the economics of health care . That would be a lie because with you I do believe it . Cuba trains some very fine doctors . They also severely underpay them which is one of the big ways they keep those costs down .

    Cuban doctors are always looking to defect, which is why the Cuban government has it’s incentive program You defect, we punish your family left in Cuba,

    Cuba, like all true Marxist Countries has to oppress it’s people . It is the only way they can afford to give out free college and free health care .

    ” for the middle class, the needy the poor, the homeless. ” Well Cuba does not have much of a middle class, but they sure do have plenty of needy, poor, and homeless . I can see the attraction for someone like you .

    Dusty ,

    ” The Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency expects to deport about 400,000 people this fiscal year, nearly 10 percent above the Bush administration’s 2008 ”

    That’s very interesting. How about this in reply .The head of ICE John Morton just sent out a memo listing a large bunch of factors agents can consider , not to enforce the law and deport someone . The list is so long that short of bank robbery and murder everyone now has amnesty.

    ” You have nothing on the health insurance front, ”

    I have this, Obama-Care does not solve anything . Obama-Care takes a bad situation and makes it ten times worse . It is so corrupt and has so many exemptions for those politically connected to Democrats. Riddle me this Batman, if your hero’s Obama-Care plan is so Super Wonderful, tell me why over 1,000 organizations begged for and got waivers from it. A lot of them were unions who supported the plan. Why, why, why ?

    ” Obama didn’t kill the economy or jack up the deficit like Bush43 did with his tax cuts and fiscal irresponsibility with not putting two forever wars “on the books”. Obama inherited it. Another fact. ”

    In the words of the immortal Tommy Chong, “whatever you’re smoking, I’ll take two ” .

    John Myste,

    ” If you don’t understand your terms, shouldn’t you be researching and learning rather than spouting off opinions about things you don’t understand? ”

    Darn, you caught me. I really don’t know the difference between a Socialist and a Marxist. I’ve argued with both for years and still can’t tell them apart except for one thing. True Marxists are not ashamed . Socialists on the other hand like to pretend . I really wanted to hear Dusty’s answer .

    Oh, and since you went off topic and I am a WW!! buff, I need to correct you on one thing concerning Hitler’s dog . A dog lover he may have been, but in the bunker as the Russians closed in Hitler needed to test the poison he would use . He was desperate not to be captured alive .He had the poison tested on his faithful dog . Nice guy, huh ? Bet you wouldn’t do that .

    • True Marxists are not ashamed . Socialists on the other hand like to pretend . I really wanted to hear Dusty’s answer Your pov does not make this a truth. Too bad you run your mouth without knowing the facts. Personally, I found your responses sorely lacking in any substance..just the usual rightwing talking points Alan. Not once did you provide anything to back up your assertions on this whole thread, whereas I did.

      None of us ‘libruls’ would ‘test’ anything on our pets. We are compassionate, loving people..unlike the extreme right.

  24. Dusty ,

    It is a simple question. What is the difference between you and a Marxist ? Why can’t you answer it ?

  25. Look, you fucking imbecile, anyone so retarded that they think Communism and Socialism are the same shouldn’t be allowed to use a computer without parental supervision. Look them up yourself; we’re not your fucking secretary.

    As for Dickhead Perry; his appointments of religious-right ideologues to chair the Texas State Board of Education, the last 2 of which have been anti-Public School/Pro-Homeschooling mouth-breathers, have caused the BOE to become a national laughing stock. YEEE-HAAAAAWWWW! ANTI-SCIENCE IS PR0-AMERICA!

    Only a assheaded imbecile like you would white knight a secessionist who claims to be “patriotic”. I mean, which is it; Fuck the US, or USA-FUCK YEAH! ? You can’t have it both ways, no matter how malleable your meager brain cells have become.

  26. Tea Party retards; they’ll fall into a vat full of titties and still come out sucking their thumbs.

  27. You’ve probably seen this already, but I’ll post it here anyway:

    The Tea Party has a lot more power than its numbers have ever suggested it should, which tells me that there is a lot of muscle, a lot of muscle, way beyond the Koch Brothers most likely, behind the scenes there. For a while I’ve been wondering if the primary purpose of all the Teatard coverage is not to convince people to think like teabaggers, but to inflate their presence so that when the voting gets tampered with, no one questions the polling numbers much. I mean, are we really this stupid, or have we merely been convinced that everyone else is?

  28. I live in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area, and have watched the “Perry years” with a general sigh of sadness and disbelief. All that Dusty has said is true concerning our poverty level because of the low wages, the unbelievable percentage of people without healthcare, and the horrific cuts to the education budget..Children in the Keller, Texas ISD have to pay $189 per semester just to ride the school bus, as a result of these cuts. I am at a point where I don’t know which political “party” I belong in… I am for “socialized” healthcare and more programs for the less fortunate in our society, I also feel that anyone who can work- should. But how can they, when there are no jobs available? I am leaning with Ron Paul when he says to bring home ALL of the troops and let’s just focus of getting our country back on track, even though I don’t agree with alot of his other policies. I voted for Obama in the last election because I felt like his intentions were good. But, bless his heart, it has gone so wrong… I do not ever pretend to know more than I actualy do.. I am only a Kindergarten teacher for God’s sakes.. But I do know this… If Rick Perry is elected president, that means that the U.S. people have “officially” lost their minds and I am moving to Canada.. I already have my sponsorship lined up.

  29. Children in the Keller, Texas ISD have to pay $189 per semester just to ride the school bus, WTF happened to our free education for all? How fucking utterly disgusting Tina. It breaks my heart..yet this bag of shit refuses to have the top 1% pay their fair share.

    Bless you for sharing your thoughts, as you are not alone dear woman. There are millions of us that feel exactly as you do…I hope that is some kind of consolation. :cry:

  30. I’m certainly not a Perry fan, but I think some of this is misleading. I moved from Ohio to Texas, because it was becoming impossible to find a job I could live on. My step daughter has therefore been in both school systems. She has always had decent grades. But when we got here she was already behind, and had to catch up just to be at the same level as the students here. Second one of her friends back in Ohio misses a lot of school, and flunks nearly every class, yet she still gets passed on to the next year. A class mate down here missed about half the number of days, and had better grades yet she was flunked. Also the percentage of people in the school whom English is the second language, is very high maybe 50%.
    As far as spending goes on education, please come to Cypress (near Houston) and check out the Berry center, it’s a huge waste of money (72.9 million), so some cutting back needed to be done. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_E._Berry_Educational_Support_Center

    • First, how the state money is spent in each district is up to the separate counties/districts isn’t it? That is how it works in every state I have lived in..a total of five states in all. Perry’s cutting of the educational budget just made it harder for each school district to figure out how to use less funds to get the same job done…educating their students.

      Second…if your district used their funds to build this giant sports complex..it sounds like politics as usual…and that goes for all parts of the U.S.

      Third..Trying to use that one example to justify cutting the state’s entire education budget is a strawman argument if I ever heard one.

      Thank you for your comment.

  31. Dusty.. you are correct. Each school district does vote on their own budget, which is exactly what Cypress ISD did in Dec. 2001 when they voted for the Berry Center. Cypress has an average household income of almost $70,000 per year. I live in Mansfield where the average income is right at $100,000. We have very high property taxes and it’s because of the way we have voted. We recently built ourselves a beautiful new football stadium and also an aquatic center. Which we all voted for. Keller ISD has an average income of $117,000, but they voted down a tax that would gain them $16 million for their school budget. Some of the suggested ways to cut spending, sent in by the Keller ISD parents, were to eliminate the ESL and special education programs, which schools are legally required to have. Idiots…So I guess they deserve their bus fees..But I am not speaking about our individual districts… I am talking about our state as a whole and the cuts that were made specifically to the education budget. My true concern is for the less fortunate districts that go without because of the drastic cuts. Who is looking out for those children and for their future?? Like Cuevitas, Texas, where 100% of their population lives below poverty level. I know that is the extreme, but as a state we are ranked almost bottom in graduation rates and also almost last in per child spending. Those numbers don’t lie. State funding helps the lower income districts buy the basics, like books, and helps to pay teacher salaries. And although each state has a standard curriculum, the way the curriculum is taught, of course varies, depending on how much money each district has. I attended school here in Texas and then went to Michigan, where I was behind, then back to Texas, where I was then far ahead. It was absolutely because of the financially different districts that I lived in. I still have family in Michigan and also have friends who have moved here looking for jobs. We can all agree that the job market sucks in general. But these kids are the future of our country and our education spending should always be the first thing that we fight for and the last thing that we cut. But then again, most of the people who know me consider me to be some kind of hippie, socialist, radical because I believe it’s our moral responsibilty to take care of each other. Either with money or with time we should all be working to make sure that every child is educated, fed, housed and insured. With all that being said…Perry is a snake and I can find no redeeming quality about him.

  32. Redstate.com and the moderators over at that site are so pro-Perry that they cannot see straight. The reprehensible things being said over their will make your skin crawl. I encourage everybody who opposes the bitter, clinging Perry-bots to go to redstate.com and sign up. No, it may not be the site for everybody, but it gives you commenting privileges. The comment thread is very heavy and goes 24/7. Typically it is one or two Anti-Perry warriors against 8 or 10 Perry nuts. It gets tiring. Any help in my marathon posting sessions is appreciated. The posters and moderators will even bait people into “breaking the posting rules” just so they can publicly humiliate them and ban them from the site immediately. I have never even been reprimanded by the Nazis over there. I just try to keep it factual and use sarcasm as a weapon to go right to the line of breaking their ridiculous rules. Any help to educate these half-wits would be greatly appreciated. REDSTATE.COM is the site.

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